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And on Caroline Kennedy…

Dec 19, 2008 in Uncategorized

Please go away.


Be like Jeebus.

Dec 19, 2008 in Barack Obama, teh gay

I mean, being a gay and Christian is kind of asking for a hypocrisy hat, if you’re going to be really hardline about it. But many of the gays love Jesus and believe he loveth them. Sullivan elaborates:

If I cannot pray with Rick Warren, I realize, then I am not worthy of being called a Christian. And if I cannot engage him, then I am not worthy of being called a writer. And if we cannot work with Obama to bridge these divides, none of us will be worthy of the great moral cause that this civil rights movement truly is.

The bitterness endures; the hurt doesn’t go away; the pain is real. But that is when we need to engage the most, to overcome our feelings to engage in the larger project, to understand that not all our opponents are driven by hate, even though that may be how their words impact us. To turn away from such dialogue is to fail ourselves, to fail our gay brothers and sisters in red state America, and to miss the possibility of the Obama moment.

It can be hard to take yes for an answer. But yes is what Obama is saying. And we should not let our pride or our pain get in the way.

My only retort is that pride doesn’t come easy for many gay people. They have to fight for it all their lives, and may not want to set it aside easily. But they may need to.

Okay, I know that last line totally copped Andrew’s style, but still.


Warrin’ on Warren BA-DUM

Dec 19, 2008 in Barack Obama, teh gay

Like that play on words, huh? More where that came from, bitches.

DICK Warren (I strike again!) isn’t an intellectual. Like many Americans. He’s a touchy-feely guy who goes to the Bible for the emotional comfort he needs to deal with this amazing but harsh world. Unfortunately, he believes himself capable of engaging in arguments with atheists like Sam Harris or pretending he has some actual reason besides “mansex ICKY!” to be anti-gay. So there’s a long line of stupid he’s left in his trail that is completely unnecessary to his larger goals, which are admirably about using Christianity for more positive things like fighting hunger, disease, and other human ailments. A lot of evangelicals are emotional creatures, not logical, but in the past they’ve been led by some nasty angry people who have turned their religion into a mirror of their inner filth. Rick Warren more of the “not such a bad guy” type. Chances are if you bump shoulders with him, you’ll find him to be “not such a bad guy.” Fer chrissakes, people, he may talk enormous shit about the gay, but at least he brought them donuts!

Okay, that’s not much consolation. But let’s remember that Warren isn’t exactly playing it safe appearing on stage with Obama while Obama is talking about gay equality and potentially hiring a gay Navy Secretary.

Kos sizes up the conflicts engendered by Obama giving Warren a warm hug onto his inaugural stage. It’s a complex move from Obama, and some people aren’t into the nuances. Even Andrew Sullivan, famous and proud man-lover, sees the virtues while acknowledging the anger. Kos sees the positive in what Obama is doing, but nonetheless,

Obama wouldn’t be out there making perhaps the strongest statement in support of gays and lesbians by a president…if it wasn’t for the sturm and drang this choice generated. It is precisely this backlash that has forced Obama to clearly affirm his commitment to equality. And it will be continued pressure that will force him to do the right thing on the issue.

If we shut up, he’ll take the path of least resistance. And that path of least resistance is kowtowing to the conservative media, the clueless punditocracy, and bigots like Warren.

There is a balance that can be found here, making clear where we stand on Warren’s bigotry while not condemning Obama as being some kind of traitor. Those who fancy themselves wise would do well to seek that balance. But if you’re angry, I ain’t mad at ya.


UPDATE: John Cole says, not so fast on dissing Obama’s consistency.

Someone who is not supportive of gay marriage or wholly receptive to gay rights is not something new- Billy Graham was no champion of gay rights, and I seriously doubt there has ever been anyone giving the invocation that openly supported gay marriage or gay rights. On the other hand, an open advocate for gay marriage is giving the Benediction, and that has never happened before.

Opposition to gay marriage increasingly incoherent.

Dec 19, 2008 in teh gay

I read the letters to the editor in the latest Newsweek regarding the “Religious Case for Gay Marriage” article by Lisa Miller from a last week.

Today I pulled that Newsweek out of my backpack where I’d shoved it and forgotten about it, and read the article.

Was it impossible for Newsweek to find a letter from somebody who did the same and actually read the article?

If you go to their website, you can find a tidal wave of reader feedback. This entry is the latest, but there are several trying to encompass the reaction. But it’s hard to find much nuance, intelligence, or reason in the vehement pushback from anti-gay activists. It amounts to:

1. I am going to disregard your proofs that I do not take all of the Bible literally, and just say that I do anyway. ESPECIALLY THE GAY PART. (Bonus points for those who dug up an extra citation Miller left out, like Sodom and Gamorrah)
2. Regarding the right of gays and gay-friendly people to their religious beliefs: on to point 3!
3. I have some other reasons outside the Bible to deny gays marriage rights, but look away while I base my stance on the presumption that homosexuality is a choice…
4. Did I remind you that LOTS OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME? That means something! Disregard that I won’t change my mind if the tide turns and more people disagree with me…

Essentially the same crap arguments we’ve been hearing for the last ten years, all things that could have been written simply by reading the title of Lisa Miller’s article. There’s never been a rational case, and nobody’s invented one recently.

And nobody will. That’s kind of how it goes when you’re wrong. You keep resisting, but you slowly and steadily run out of ammo. Eventually people stop finding you persuasive, and you just end up being some grumpy self-righteous old person muttering under your breath.


You throw a shoe, you get woman!

Dec 19, 2008 in Curiosities

The shoe-throwing hero of the Middle East, languishing in prison and severely beaten, is offered a bride. Truth be told, he could walk into any Muslim home in the world and claim the hottest daughter. I’m thinking he’ll get pardoned by Maliki after Bush leaves office, because that guy needs to go out there and feel the love.