Breaking: Right Wingers Treat Terrorism Buffet-Style, Think Sometimes It’s Awesome

Sunday, May 31st, 2009 @ 6:44 pm | Uncategorized

As our friends would ask if some no-name Democratic assemblyman got a traffic ticket: where’s the outrage? Of course, as soon as you point out that they’re suddenly not that concerned about acts of terrorism on American soil as long as they don’t like the victim, they’ll turn to their ready-made bag of diversionary tactics: “You’re trying to politicize this, how disgusting” (duh: it’s political) is the first line of I-don’t-wanna-talk-about-the-actual-issue, followed shortly by some reheated “goes around, comes around” stuff that – ironically, since most abortion opponents object to the law on purportedly Christian grounds – springs straight from Hinduism.

This is the first killing of a doctor who performs abortions in ten years; this is how the far extremities of the right behave when Democrats are in power. Thomas Tallis predicts that every single right-wing blogger and commentator who covers this story (if any of them do; it’s kind of a hot potato for them, since they like to say how looney lefties are – give me ten loony lefties over one armed anti-abortion activist, thanks) will resort to either of the above rhetorical strategies or to others before saying “our movement is not about this sort of thing, and the actions of this madman must be unambiguously decried without mitigating political commentary that might lend further encouragement to other terrorists.”

This isn’t news, of course. Reagan funneled money to people who killed nuns and priests in Central America for eight years. Democrats and Republicans alike love terrorists just fine when their goals are aligned. But in recent years, it’s been wingers who’ve been most vocal – and therefore most hypocritical – about opposing terrorism.

Will the online right get this one, umm, right? Don’t hold your breath.

-TT
(update: credit where credit’s due – Allahpundit get its right, and I have to say, it’s nice when people on opposing sides of a question can see eye to eye.)

80 Responses to “Breaking: Right Wingers Treat Terrorism Buffet-Style, Think Sometimes It’s Awesome”

  1. cheryl Says:

    You are insane. Nobody condones this type of behavior….God above is your maker and your judge and jury when it’s time. Too bad Dr. Tiller played God with babies.

  2. Thomas Tallis Says:

    Setting a new record, Cheryl confirms everything I wrote in 30 words!

  3. Concerned Catholic Says:

    Will Jenn Giroux and her absolute whack-job organization, “Women Influencing the Nation” now have the common decency to take down their website, chargetiller.com? She’s been very, very proud of promoting her actions here for some time now. When will her ilk and similar organizations begin to understand that they are, essentially, hate organizations promoting their brand of justifiable moral depravity for the type the condemn???

  4. Dana Says:

    Mr Tallis, every major pro-life organization has been right there, condemning the murder of Dr Tiller. It is our friends on the left who want to use this murder — which we do not even know yet was connected to Dr Tiller’s gruesome profession — to condemn all pro-life organizations.

  5. Mike in WI Says:

    So, a killer is himself killed by an individual, acting on his own, from unknown motives. And now the Left wants to use this as a pretext to suppress the Right, while refusing to listen to the voice of the Center. Talk about political terrorism . . .

  6. DeadWings Says:

    Dana: So why haven’t you denounced these actions on your site? Sounds like you’re condoning this killing to me, right wing hypocrite! How does it feel? As a liberal,you expect us to chase after and offer apologies for every left wing fucktard but somehow you guys get off scott free any time some redneck decides to go drag a homo around behind his truck or shoot a doctor. If we don’t spend all of our time apologizing we’re liberal hypocrites. When a Ruby Ridge takes place you pay zero attention. You are hypocrits.

  7. DeadWings Says:

    Mike in WI: yeah, I get it. It’s all the liberals fault that some guy decided to shoot a doctor AT CHURCH. He had it coming I guess right?

  8. John Says:

    Dr. (I question even that title) Tiller murdered thousands of humans. He poked a hole in the heads of hundreds of babies and sucked their brains out, then collapsed their heads and pulled the rest of their body out from the womb. This is a Dr??? Dr. Mengele of sorts if we really weigh the facts. I do not condone the murder of abortionists, but I also do not elevate them to a status beyond what they deserve. They are murder doctors, no different from the legal murder doctors of Nazi Germany. Mr Tiller is now at the mercy of God, and I pray for his soul. I wish he converted from his evil before dying, but that was his to do, and he had plenty of people praying for his conversion. God have mercy on your soul George Tiller – but somehow I’m grateful that other babies will not die at his hands. This was a cowardly act – especially to those who peacefully pray at abortion clinics all over the country and are spit upon continuously. This act is not what God wants – this only uses a violent means to eradicate a murderous act by using the same act. It cannot work.
    But back to George Tiller’s soul: in my belief you George, are probably facing hell at this point. Let’s pray you performed an act of contrition prior to expiring.

  9. sam Says:

    y’all keep bickering back and forth, using this tragedy as another excuse for political banter. The revolution is imminent and soon right,left,center,up, and down will all be irrelevant.

  10. Nate W Says:

    The revolution is imminent? More like treason. Is it any wonder that the Department of Homeland Security is profiling you guys?

  11. Nate W Says:

    Dr. (I question even that title) Tiller murdered thousands of humans. He poked a hole in the heads of hundreds of babies and sucked their brains out, then collapsed their heads and pulled the rest of their body out from the womb.

    Yeah, I get it, it was wrong because it was icky. Why don’t you go intimidate a bunch of thirteen year old girls with this garbage?

  12. honeyspell Says:

    His death was more humane than the way he killed those babies. Everybody who disagrees needs to watch a partial birth abortion video to see how barbaric this practice is. How late is too late to kill somebody Dr.? You were aborted at the age of 67. You had a much fuller life than the children whose skulls you crushed and sucked apart their tiny bodies with a high-powered vaccuum. Enjoy your place in hell, you’ve earned it!

  13. mike g Says:

    So I take it that the people who are here cheer leading the death of Dr. Tiller are advocating murder? Is this some “eye for an eye” type rationale?

  14. mike g Says:

    Because what you’re advocating is terrorism. You understand this, right? Terrorism at the hands of religious extremists.

  15. godlessandfree Says:

    I’m so disturb by this act of terrorism i guess its OK to commit terrorism when you don’t like the person you people claim that abortion is wrong i don’t see any of you adopting any crack, rape, malformed babies recently you can hide behind your religion and your god.

    All OF THIS BECAUSE EVEN TILL THIS DAY YOU STILL HAVE A FEAR OF THE DARK.

  16. Jack Says:

    I don’t see what the big deal is. Nobody cried when Ted Bundy was executed. What goes around, comes around; this guy guy murdered for a living. No tears shed here.

  17. Angelo Periut Says:

    I think I will have a nice cocktail and enjoy the good news. I cannot regret the execution of a mass murderer of the innocent. My sympathies are with the family of the man arrested today. He saved many lives by his courageous action.

  18. Jack Says:

    Nate W:
    The DHS is a part of the government that was designed for the sole purpose of spying on the American people. They are “Big Brother/Sister”, with the sole purpose of controlling us. If you don’t believe this, just go to their site, all they do is gather intell on U.S. citizens. This branch of the government (Department of Homeland Security) was started by Bush after all. And yes, your dearly beloved Obama expanded their wiretapping capabilities. Wasn’t it the Liberals who railled against that when Bush did it?

  19. John Says:

    Just more proof that this country is filled with religious nutjobs. I really hope the murderer of the doctor gets life(knowing he’ll be somebody’s bitch forever isn’t so bad) or better yet, executed (save us taxpayers some money). I can’t believe these whackjob pro-lifers are allowed to spread their proproganda of hate. This is the result people, you see it, somebody dies for no reason. These people should be rounded up and put on a separate island by themselves, away from society. They contribute nothing good but only serve to indoctrinate the weaker souls. Their brains are too scrambled and filled with hatred to function alongside normal people.

  20. John Says:

    Angelo Periut Says:
    May 31st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
    I think I will have a nice cocktail and enjoy the good news. I cannot regret the execution of a mass murderer of the innocent. My sympathies are with the family of the man arrested today. He saved many lives by his courageous action.

    I wish his actions were retroactive, so nutjobs like you wouldn’t exist.

  21. ListenFirst Says:

    Jack,

    I see you’re advocating murder. I think there was a commandment against that one wasn’t there…? check your bible…

    And you don’t even have your government organizations straight, so knowing what they do and how they do it must be beyond you too. DHS was formed to oversee the protection of U.S. infrastructure and respond to emergencies. I suppose for example the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, which became a part of the Agriculture department at DHS, is wiretapping your phone? Or TSA… oh dear they’ve inspected the boxers in my suitcase…

  22. Jack Says:

    John:
    Actually it is cheaper to give him a few life sentences. Thanks to the liberal propaganda machine and their ranting against capital punishment (except when it suits them), it is now more expensive to execute a convicted killer. There is an endless amount of appeals and yes, it all comes out of OUR pockets.

  23. ListenFirst Says:

    Agreed about life sentence John. He could use the time to think it over… and over… and over… Chances are he still won’t get it…

  24. ListenFirst Says:

    wah wah wah Jack… I’m sure you would’ve spent that money well… I suppose you’d put your hero up to the firing squad? Oh no… you’d erect a statue for him with our tax dollar… now there’s some irony…

  25. Jack Says:

    ListenFirst:

    1. You sound like and idiot when you speak without thinking while using that name.

    2. I wouldn’t know what the bible says, never read one. I hate organized religion.

    3. Look up the DHS; their idea of securing the U.S., is securing and controlling the people. When Bush was in control, they targeted Liberal groups. Now that Obama is in control, they target conservative groups. Hopefully you are not a member of any group that displeases the government, or you will find yourself on the list.

  26. Jack Says:

    Actually, I would buy a cheeseburger with the extra cash.

  27. Thomas Tallis Says:

    Dana are you reading your pals here? Can you really stand by your “only our friends on the left” statement above?

  28. Jack Says:

    I must apologize: Only for the comments on the doctor.

    At first I thought this doctor was the usual “birth control” doctor. I was not aware that he allegedly only performed abortions after “two” other doctors came to a conclusion that the mother would die.

    I do not have an issue if abortion is done for the purpose of preserving the mother’s life. It is the same concept as self-defense. Rape (when the mother has no choice in the matter) and to preserve the mother’s life are the only two situations that I view abortion as acceptable.

    So indeed, if this doctor “only” performed abortions to save the mother’s life, and not as a form of birth control, or a cover-up for a careless night; then I do feel bad for the way he passed.

  29. Tony Says:

    I like how the religious like to fight for an unborn child that cannot do nothing, and or is dependent on the mother, which basically has nothing to do with them. But if and when this child is born, doesn’t really have good upbringing and becomes a menace to society, the same that were defending some supposed rights earned by fertilzation are no where to be found. I’m sorry, but actions like those wish I was a mercenary and destroy the part of society who thinks that their brand of “ideals” should be enforeced on the rest. Hey that sounds just like sharia, the same “religious” people whom we hate… irony is that we have that already here, or those trying to impose. They are called christians! You disgusts me, and wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

  30. Tony Says:

    Oh yeah… and for those that stated they were happy with this slaying, I hope there is a young female in your life (sister, friend, etc) who gets gangbang raped. For those with children, I wish it to be your daughters. I want to see where your stand on abortion would stand then. I bet you can’t wait what your foot taste like, huh?

  31. Ray B Says:

    “However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence,” Obama said in a statement issued by the White House.”
    What Obama fails to realize, and what all those shedding tears over Tiller’s death fail to realize, is that George Tiller committed heinous acts of violence every day for a living. Sticking scissors in the skull of a child and suctioning out their brains may have been sanctioned by an activist 1973 Supreme Court, but it does not make it any less murder or any less “a heinous act of violence.” While it is sad to see the death of ANY human being, including Tiller, today, he unfortunately got a taste of what he has been doing to others for decades. Cry for him if you must, but also cry for the thousands of innocent human beings who died by his hand. May God have mercy on his soul.

  32. Tony Says:

    Schmuck says: “I do not have an issue if abortion is done for the purpose of preserving the mother’s life. It is the same concept as self-defense. Rape (when the mother has no choice in the matter) and to preserve the mother’s life are the only two situations that I view abortion as acceptable.

    So indeed, if this doctor “only” performed abortions to save the mother’s life, and not as a form of birth control, or a cover-up for a careless night; then I do feel bad for the way he passed.”

    So what business is it of your buddy? Are you going to be taking care of the child when he/she is born? NO Was it you that impregnated her from drikin to much of jesus’s/gods blood (wine) NO Are you in some sort of secret raffle where if you can prevent abortions and allow unwanted children to be born, you get some type of monetary bonus? NO So why the hell does it matter to… oh yeah, that’s what backward dog said. LOL, you are as pathetic as is your reasoning for intruding into a womans personal affairs.

    You have a daughter, sister, close female companion?? I wish her happy rapings…

  33. Jack Says:

    Tony:
    Wow, are you a far right wack-job, or a far-laft wacko? I’m only confused because you talk about death, murder, and so on. The funny thing is, is that you curse those who have nothing to do with this. And you rail about the same things that those you oppose do.

  34. Tony Says:

    Another schmuck says ““However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence,” Obama said in a statement issued by the White House.”
    What Obama fails to realize, and what all those shedding tears over Tiller’s death fail to realize, is that George Tiller committed heinous acts of violence every day for a living. Sticking scissors in the skull of a child and suctioning out their brains may have been sanctioned by an activist 1973 Supreme Court, but it does not make it any less murder or any less “a heinous act of violence.” While it is sad to see the death of ANY human being, including Tiller, today, he unfortunately got a taste of what he has been doing to others for decades. Cry for him if you must, but also cry for the thousands of innocent human beings who died by his hand. May God have mercy on his soul.”

    Do you give this much effort to the “children” already born, in a foster system that is bias towards older children. Once they are born, you don’t give a fuck one way or another, because for some reason it doesn’t correlate with religious doctrine. You sir are a hypocrite. When you adopt all the foster children, and they all have homes, then maybe, maybe there is an inkling of hope for your religious agenda push. But I will be there to squash any hopes for you have no rights in determining what another human being does with his/her body. Get a life and stop worrying about shit you have no say so in.

  35. Jack Says:

    Tony, I would love to meet you face to face ;) I find people are extreamly strong on the internet. Which state are you from? I’m in Washington, around the Seattle area. Maybe we could have this discusion over a cup of coffee or tea? Would you be as brave to say those things to someones face? ;)

  36. Righteous Bubba Says:

    I hope there is a young female in your life (sister, friend, etc) who gets gangbang raped.

    I hope that is never the case.

  37. iPak Says:

    Didn’t take much for all the domestic terrorists to come out and show their true colors. Is it alright to start worrying about right wing extremists yet?

  38. Jack Says:

    You sound like my cousin. He also believes abortion is a great form of birth control. The funny thing is, is that he is a Republican.

  39. Tony Says:

    Schmuck one says: “Tony:
    Wow, are you a far right wack-job, or a far-laft wacko? I’m only confused because you talk about death, murder, and so on. The funny thing is, is that you curse those who have nothing to do with this. And you rail about the same things that those you oppose do.”

    I’m neither, i’m a person who will say what is on his mind. Some in your ilk celebrate the death of this Dr who had woman come in voluntarily to get a treatment done, but gasp at what the doctor was doing. Who is the damn hypocrite, not me. I just wish those of you who think religion is on there side, who think they are better than others because they assume some mystical being backs them up would look in the mirror. I do talk about death because we are all born to die, and how one reaches that, well is the only control we have in life. I speak about murder, because I feel that some people in this world just need to die, I might be one of them, but who knows… this is about what I think.

    I am speaking about those who have nothing to do with this??? Really, you guys are the cheerleading squad for people like those who think they can murder someone, because of a “faith”. GTFOH.

    I do rail about the same things…… and??? Please, show the contrast between “why” I would do what I speak about, and those who think they are doing their actions because of a higher power.

  40. Tony Says:

    Someone says: “I hope there is a young female in your life (sister, friend, etc) who gets gangbang raped.

    I hope that is never the case.”

    Me neither, but that case on abortion would be amusing to watch, if this were to happen in the inner circle of a pro life family.

  41. mike Says:

    That’s just it, though. When an unexpected pregnancy happens to “good, wholesome Americans” there’s an outpouring of sympathy for the mother. When it happens to poor folks, particularly minorities, it’s cause to heap scorn on the mother and deride her for her irresponsibility.

  42. Nate W Says:

    mike> Meh…it’s a way to punish women for having sex, that’s all. All these fundy religions got a few things in common and one of them is their psycho devotion to shitting on women whenever they get the chance.

  43. Tony Says:

    Schmuck says: “Tony, I would love to meet you face to face I find people are extreamly strong on the internet. Which state are you from? I’m in Washington, around the Seattle area. Maybe we could have this discusion over a cup of coffee or tea? Would you be as brave to say those things to someones face?”

    Actually I would, because i’m not threatening someone in particular. I’m in virginia, you know, where the good ol boys still think blacks are inferior… which is pretty damn sad. I don’t like coffee or tea, ice water is just fine. Now, again about speaking these things to someones face… if someone were to react to what I say, they would have to first meet with the doctors family and deal with them. What would that solve, you want to meet sure, i’m down. Just let me reassure you that your words sounds as if your chesting thumping for a point. For what i’m not sure. My words are clear. You celebrate the doctors death, based on your religious idealogy, then you yourself should die based on my ideology… it’s only fair.

  44. Thomas Tallis Says:

    what we’d be hearing from the wingnuts if the circumstances were different: “why won’t the MSM release the name of the killer yet? could it be that he’s a DEMOCRAT?” etc etc etc. oddly, none of them seem to think there’s anything at all untoward in the bad ol’ MSM withholding the name of the man arrested!

  45. Kris Says:

    I absolutely am astonished by the ferociousness with which “Christians” and I use THAT word loseley, will quote the bible as justification for murder.
    As for “tony”, I believe who was asking if anyone on here gives a Fuck about the kids in foster care…my response would be..”do you,tony?”
    I love all of those anti abortion nuts who make sure they have plenty of little “gifts from God”, but do they adopt them?

  46. Jack Says:

    Tony:
    You should learn how to read. You are chest bumbing and making accusations. Someone already tried to pin the religious thing on me. I was once kicked out of church at 11 years old, 20 years later and I have not been back since. Meeting people like you does make me want to rethink my stance on abortion though…hmmmm. What happened to you as a kid, did mommy not breast feed you enouph?

    The MSM wackos did release his name and age, thomas.

  47. jeromy Says:

    Tony: You make good points about hypocrisy and the shallowness of the pro-life agenda, i.e. not giving a shit about the kids once they’re born, etc.

    But when you wish gang-rape and death on others, you hoist yourself on your own petard.

    You celebrate the doctors death, based on your religious idealogy, then you yourself should die based on my ideology… it’s only fair.

    And by your rationale, you deserve death too.

    Better to point out that nobody here knows what “God” wants, and if they say so, they’re only speaking for themselves. Point out the remarkable lack of Biblical support for being anti-abortion, or that anti-abortion chatter didn’t become very popular until the 1800s.

    Or point out that these people skirt around what they want, which is to criminalize abortion as “murder,” yet give the mothers a free pass because it’s not politically tenable. Or the fact that abortion, when restricted, merely becomes a privilege for the rich, while the poor resort to whatever means necessary.

    You could say all sorts of useful things. Yet you’re just trying to out-crazy the crazies, and sounding just as bad.

  48. Thomas Tallis Says:

    I have to say, in the Catholic Church at any rate, there are pro-life activists who walk the walk: who help pregnant women through the adoption process and do so without evangelizing.

    These people are rare, though – for the most part, the anti-abortion crowd sets the gold standard for “unhinged.” they have all kinds of really bizarro-world magical thinking – “if I describe the procedure graphically enough times, it will miraculously win the argument!” these same people, when the torture of living human beings is described, suddenly want to split hairs about what is or isn’t torture. weird! absolutists one minute, interested in subtleties of language the next.

  49. Mike G Says:

    Thomas Tallis> I think that it’s a LIBRUL MEDIA MSM SOCIOFASCISTCOMMUNIST PLOT TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT HE’S A LIBRUL!!!!

    oops….oh wait….he’s one of our guys isn’t he? well…good for them for respecting that man’s privacy!

  50. Tony Says:

    Kris, I do. I have a 3 year old daughter to raise and want no more. It wouldn’t be fair. If I had the time and finacially able, I would open a school/slash halfway house for foster kids. I would be able to give them a roof over their head, and education, and maybe some self worth, because you prolifer do a damn job of not caring after they are born. And after reading your post, I guess you didn’t get it clear that i’m pro (mind your own fucking business). As you can see, I have a dilemma. I would love to help, but I have my own seed to raise in this fucked up world. If I were to win the lottery, the first thing I would do after helping my immediate family would be to open that instution for foster children. To hell with waiting for someone to pick them out. They would be family the moment they step foot through the threshold of my establishment. Is that a good enough answer for you Kris?

  51. Tony Says:

    Tony:
    You should learn how to read. You are chest bumbing and making accusations. Someone already tried to pin the religious thing on me. I was once kicked out of church at 11 years old, 20 years later and I have not been back since. Meeting people like you does make me want to rethink my stance on abortion though…hmmmm. What happened to you as a kid, did mommy not breast feed you enouph?

    The MSM wackos did release his name and age, thomas

    I’m not labeling you as religious, it’s the whole prolife movement that sickens me and is pro religious. Mommy breast fed me enough, I have just learned that people will always want to push their ideals onto others, but when that leads to death, that is where I feel things need to change… in what ever action necessary. I apologize if you thought that I was labeling you religious. And on a side note, i’m glad you got kicked out of church, spared yourself from homosexual/religousn experience with on the pastors. LOL… ok that was a cheap shot, but it’s the truth.

  52. mike g Says:

    I think that the important thing to realize here is that Scott Roeder wasn’t profiled, or worse yet, INVESTIGATED for being a crazed, right-wing activist. God forbid.

  53. Tony Says:

    jeromy… yeah you maybe right, but 1. i’m not forcing any ideals down no ones throught or killing for them neither. 2. While my statement are harsh, it’s honest. 3. Wishing something on someone and actually doing something are two seperate concepts. 4. Why should I deserve death, I have done nothing to no one except defend those who seem to always have someone religious trample on what they can do with their own bodies… because of dogma. C’mon brotha, think a little deeper outside the box.

  54. Thomas Tallis Says:

    yeah name of the killer is out. can any wingnut say with a straight face that the hours before it was made known, would not, under other circumstances, have been howling “WHY HAVEN’T THEY RELEASED HIS NAME? HE MUST HAVE VOTED FOR OBAMA!” etc.

    As an anonymous pro-lifer pointed out elsewhere, though: good will come of this. To the pro-choice movement, that is. The Patriot Act will interpret this as evidence of a conspiracy amounting to domestic terrorism; shutting down Operation Rescue & others shouldn’t be too tough in the wake of this, under provisions of the Patriot Act.

  55. Jack Says:

    Also for Tony:
    I find it humorious that you think that I would be offended by a female family member who got an abortion do to rape, seeing as how I said that is one of two forms of abortion I don’t oppose. The other being in the preservation of the mother’s life. You do need to work on your reading skills. I know that that probably confuses your liberal mind, don’t worry, I often confuse the little conservative minds too. You two wack jobs are so used to arguing with each other that it compleatly baffles you to argue with someone who dosn’t think like you expect them to think. I would probably confuse you on other topics also. Gays for instance, I disagree with their lifestyle, but I am not against them getting married or adopting children. Actually I think that they could probably take care of all those foster kids (better than their cracked out parents) you are so worried about.

  56. Tony Says:

    To all, if you were offended by whatn I have typed… get over it. You have people who that because they “believe” in a god, they have the right to kill. WTF, and you defend and condone that persons action??? And i’m the sicko here??? No wonder our country is going down the shitter, everyone wants “their” ideals as law.

    From this day forth, it is illegal to put a tattoo on your body. If you do so, we will bomb the tattoo shop and the artist…

  57. jeromy Says:

    Tony: You said other people should die for celebrating Tiller’s death. It’s hard to come up with a statement more self-contradictory.

    Sorry if you think I’m stuck in some box, but truth and intelligence have their constraints. In your defense, I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about.

  58. Tony Says:

    Jack (schmuck one)… ok, so I fubared what I wanted to say, my bad. I didn’t know there were more than one forms of abortion. Abortion is abortion right??? Either way, it’s none of your damn business, point blank. I should have just stated that instead, guess I got angered for those who were celebrating this Dr’s death… it’s just so hypocritical… don’t you think. You didn’t confuse me brotha, got your point, just replied in haste. Yes, i’m honest enough to say that I “may” be a whack job, but know this, I will not intervene in someone else personal life… unless it directly effected mine or my daughters. But you will. Good for you on the instance for gays, no body gives 2 shits whether you agree or not with their lifestyles… that should be the MAIN point on that issue… again, none of your damn business. Oh yeah, I never stated that the parents of foster kids were cracked out. Put that blunt down bro…

  59. Jack Says:

    Thomas, you are too funny. You are actually praising the PATRIOT ACT, one of the most unconstitutional things enacted by our so called government? You do remember it was Bush who came up with this thing and pushed it through office? I remember liberals AND conservatives actually agreed with how wrong this was, except our so called representatives and senators,why the change of heart?

  60. Tony Says:

    Jerome, I know what I want to say, but maybe unable to convey it…
    That is contradictory, but so what. My point still remains that it’s sick and hypocritcal to celebrate and condone ones death because of your (not you directly) religious faith. But i’m the one that is wacked out???

  61. Jack Says:

    Tony, I think you are one confused little puppy, who is really angry at the world. You rail against people for the same thing you do, imposing your holiest opinion.

  62. Tony Says:

    Jack… holy shit, at least we can agree that the patriot act was a manifesto for people control in the US and aint worth a damn.

  63. Jack Says:

    Well now that Tony is toast and proved him/herself an idiot, it is time to go bug the Christians. They are almost as fun as you liberals. All full of HOPE, faith, and so on. I just had to throw in that you guys vote for leaders the same way christians follow their religion.

  64. Tony Says:

    Jack:
    My opinion doesn’t turn into death, but it seems that the others have manifested that into reality. I’m not angry at the world, it’s natural to have some sort of dissent to things you don’t agree with. Also, I have never said i’m the holiest. Sorry if you misinterpret my complete honest feelings towards the matter as such.

  65. Tony Says:

    Yes, i’m toast brotha, your sure got me, yuk yuk.

  66. Tony Says:

    Jack, how mighty of you… a persons an idiot for expressing himself about the matter at hand.

    You said “I don’t see what the big deal is. Nobody cried when Ted Bundy was executed. What goes around, comes around; this guy guy murdered for a living. No tears shed here.”

    As I stated before, when these children were born if the mother didn’t get the abortion, would you be first in line to lend a hand to help. I don’t think so. And I thought I was calous.

  67. Jack Says:

    Tony, you missed the part where I corrected myself for that comment. Well you misquoted other stuff out of the same paragraph, hence why you toasted yourself with your own stupidity.

  68. Tony Says:

    Jack said: “So indeed, if this doctor “only” performed abortions to save the mother’s life, and not as a form of birth control, or a cover-up for a careless night; then I do feel bad for the way he passed.”

    So if the doctors practices were not within the realm of what you thought were proper “forms” of abortion, you would say fuck him, he deserved? Wow, must be the water in Washington.

  69. Tony Says:

    Jack, you didn’t correct yourself because you were still unsure if he did do the procedures to help the mother live. Remeber the word “if”? And that still leaves the relevance of post 68.

  70. Tony Says:

    Good job Jack, if it doesn’t fall within your ideals, people are just shit out of luck. One or two lumps with that…

  71. Jack Says:

    Here Tony, a gift.
    This site is filled up with people as angry as you.

    http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/2009/05/gotcha-abortionist-shot-dead.html

    Hint…Hint…a conservative site…have fun.

  72. jeromy Says:

    No, Tony, you’re not the crazy one. We already know the guys celebrating this terrorism are. But when somebody pro-choice starts sounding whacked, I correct them that they may better represent that point of view.

  73. Thomas Tallis Says:

    Of course, as soon as you point out that they’re suddenly not that concerned about acts of terrorism on American soil as long as they don’t like the victim, they’ll turn to their ready-made bag of diversionary tactics: “You’re trying to politicize this, how disgusting” (duh: it’s political) is the first line of I-don’t-wanna-talk-about-the-actual-issue, followed shortly by some reheated “goes around, comes around” stuff that – ironically, since most abortion opponents object to the law on purportedly Christian grounds – springs straight from Hinduism.

    I would just like to point out that this morning, across the righty blogosphere, people are lining up to prove me right. The “politicizing” line is especially ripe. This was a politically motivated killing. The time to discuss the politics of it is immediately, and the call to “give it time” etc. is the righty way of saying “we haven’t coordinated our defenses yet.”

  74. Jack Says:

    Thomas:
    You sound like an advocate for war and fighting on your own soil (coordinating defenses, us vs. them mentality). I like how you liberal wackos readily call on the law and constitution when you want to warp it to your agenda, it reminds me of what the righty wack-jobs do. You are aware that “Roe v. Wade” is an unconstitutional ruling. All amendments dealing with the constitution and “civil liberties” are supposed to go through the people, not a bunch of bought out windbags sitting in a judges chair. For instance, here in Washington the “assisted suicide” law was just past, you could call it late term abortion (except the person doing the dying has a choice). Now I don’t support this, but I don’t fuss about it either; why, because it was passed and put into law according to constitutional guidlines (a vote BY THE PEOPLE, not some political activist judge). You do realize how scary you Lafties and Righties sound, Hitler and Stalin had similar views on how to deal with people who were different. Hitler=right wing extreamist. Stalin=left wing extreamist.

  75. Jack Says:

    Maybe if we are lucky all of you lefties and righties will kill each other off. I’ll give you lefties a bit of advice, the righties have guns, you are going to have to arm yourselves in order to fight (I know against your religion or whatever), I would sure hate to be stuck with a bunch of right wingers (only) around.

  76. Thomas Tallis Says:

    Jack keepin’ it classy

  77. Jeromy Says:

    Jack not knowing what judicial branch is for, what ninth amendment is,
    but itching to talk about what is constitutional.

    Jack, just admit you wouldn’t care what the constitution said, you’d just want to change it.

  78. honeyspell Says:

    Why are the women choosing to abort so late? If they didnt want the child they could have had the abortion during the first part of the pregnancy. There are hundreds of abortion docs who arent being shot at or killed. It is just as dangerous to have a late term abortion as it is to give birth and put the child up for adoption. Is there anybody who disagrees that a woman that wants to abort should do it in the first 6-8 weeks? Before there is a beating heart or brain?

  79. Thomas Tallis Says:

    Here is one woman’s story, if you can stand it. Late term abortions are generally not people who have decided they don’t want to keep the baby or put it up for adoption, although there are some bogus Right-to-Life surveys that claim otherwise.

  80. ss Says:

    The amount of late-term abortions performed is quite small in comparison with the total number of abortions. Usually this is done for medical reasons, i.e. the baby has no brain developed, the baby is already dead and the mother doesn’t want to wait weeks to go into labor (happened to a family friend), etc….can anyone find actual data on reasons for late term abortions? You can’t usually argue with data.

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