How dare the president defy Rush Limbaugh.

Monday, February 22nd, 2010 @ 7:46 pm | Politics

Picked up on this Limbaugh quote from a certain Iowa blogger who trolls this site periodically:

“This health care plan is being prepared in defiance. This health care plan is being revived to ram it down your throat and my throat and everybody’s throats to show us who’s boss.” – Rush Limbaugh

In case you’re wondering, that’s all the actual blog post consists of, just a quote from Rush Limbaugh. Aside from the dumb simplicity, it answers the question definitely as to who does all the thinking for these guys. From his doughy ass to their mealy mouths. But the quote is a good example of what drives Republicans. Any action by government seen as going against their tribal desires is described as an act of defiance regardless of who holds the majority. More than that, it’s often characterized as an act of treason by craven usurpers.

Health care reform deserves a simple up or down vote because voters knew in 2006 and 2008 that the Democratic party intended to enact real reform. Democrats campaigned on health care reform during both elections and it’s been a part of the party platform for years. They didn’t elect Democrats in huge majorities to sit on their hands and bide the wishes of Republican lawmakers whose only desire is to see Obama fail. They haven’t even pretended to be interested in suggesting any meaningful ideas that would help solve our countries health care issues. Jim DeMint expressed this sentiment clearly when he stated that health care reform would be Obama’s Waterloo. That’s not bipartisanship. That’s simple obstructionism. And every bill that has been proposed over the past year has been a dilution of a compromise and still Republicans are ready to rely on a procedural trick to block any and all efforts.

There’s a billboard in Cedar Rapids that says “How’s That Hope and Change Working Out For Ya?” Not bad for the person that can afford to erect politically charged billboards on the highway I would guess. But what bitter, well-heeled Republican advertisers fail to understand is this; voters aren’t upset because Obama is defying the will of conservatives and the center they unscrupulously lay claim to. They’re upset because he hasn’t repudiated Republicans and stomped on their heads enough.

-mg

11 Responses to “How dare the president defy Rush Limbaugh.”

  1. Bill J Says:

    Well Iowa Liberal, take your head out of the partisan sand! Every major pollster shows that the respondents overwhelming reject the democrats plan. They do not want socialized medicine, plain and simple. They do not want a bureaucrat deciding whether or not their life is worth the expense to save it as happens in most countries with socialized medicine. What gives a government the right to determine whether or not a person lives or dies based on the cost to keep them alive?? If a person has a chronic disease that requires expensive treatment and medication, does the goverment have the right to deny treatment?? In Great Britian; if you have a chronic disease and it’s determined that you have less than a year to live, they fill you with druga, lock you in a room with no food or water until you expire!! Is that what you want here?? TO ME SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS SOCIALIZED EVIL!!!!

    Of course the people who have written this horrendous bill are exempt from this bill as they have their own blu ribbon heathcare system. Are they so important tha they can exempt themselves from the healthcare everyone else will have??

  2. mike Says:

    Every major pollster shows that the respondents overwhelming reject the democrats plan.

    Really? That’d be an interesting claim were you able to produce any sort of substantiation for it.

    In Great Britian; if you have a chronic disease and it’s determined that you have less than a year to live, they fill you with druga, lock you in a room with no food or water until you expire!! Is that what you want here??

    My grandmother died last year and she was a lifelong citizen of Great Britain. She got years of home health care and a pension to go along with it. Like your “every major pollster” claims, the scenario you’re describing is completely untrue.

    If a person has a chronic disease that requires expensive treatment and medication, does the goverment have the right to deny treatment??

    If that government is comprised of democratically elected officials and trained professionals, yes. Your alternative is for corporate bureaucrats to make life or death decisions. What right does a corporation – a non-democratic, private tyranny – have to deny treatment?

    TO ME SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS SOCIALIZED EVIL!!!!

    Sadly, we’re not going to get anything near socialized medicine. We’re going to get an inefficient market-based confab that keeps leaches like health insurance companies subsidized. You might have a point if what is being debated was a single-payer system but without even a strong public option you really are full of shit.

  3. Henry Whistler Says:

    Bill J: That’s taking your head out of the partisan sand?

    It’s pointless, but let’s go through your condensed rightwing talking points:

    1. Every poll shows that those on the left don’t think the Senate bill goes far enough, and that numbers only dipped after the public option was sacrificed to get a few Senators like Lieberman and Nelson on board to override your 40 vote minority representing 37% of the country.

    2. Polls also reflect that people know the system needs reform, although if easily brainwashed people like you weren’t continuously spouting misinformation those numbers would be a lot higher. DEATH PANELS!

    3. “They do not want a bureaucrat deciding whether or not their life is worth the expense to save it as happens in most countries with socialized medicine.”

    That already happens under the private system. If you seem expensive to cover, you don’t get coverage. If you have coverage and become expensive to cover, you lose coverage.

    4. Keep in mind it’s socialized medicine that takes care of Grandpa and Grandma, because private insurers won’t go near them. They’re rationed right out of the private system.

    Not to mention the 40,000 people who die every year because they’re rationed out of the private system. So obviously the private system is very capable of great evil and has spelled doom for millions of Americans.

    5. “In Great Britian; if you have a chronic disease and it’s determined that you have less than a year to live, they fill you with druga, lock you in a room with no food or water until you expire!!”

    This passage indicates you’re somewhat deranged and care nothing for the truth. Simply flat-out false, ridiculously so.

    6. You’re the one preventing Americans from having the blue ribbon healthcare system congressmen have. It’s rather amazing that you can continue your broken diatribe by expressing outrage that we aren’t getting government health care.

    Bill, your mind has obviously been polluted by a lot of rightwing talking points that have little basis in reality. It’s also rather obvious that you’re going to ignore most of these refutations and dig in your heels further, should you bother to respond.

    Let me introduce you to Iowa Liberal: This is the site where your bullshit comes to die. Consider it a blessing, and love the pain.

  4. Henry Whistler Says:

    Doh, Mike G for the simultaneous takedown!

  5. sg Says:

    They lock you in a room until you die?! lol That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard! People need to get out of the country a little more instead of trusting uneducated, pompous addicts.

  6. lil sis Says:

    Here’s socialized medicine for you…Grandma had a home health care nurse coming twice a day (one in the morning for bathing and getting ready, again at night to help get ready for bed), another person coming in daily to make her meals, another person coming in to clean, and a special bus coming right to her door to take her to appointments, parties and outings. And she got to make the choice not to live in a nursing home. Socialized medicine is evil!

  7. mike g Says:

    Here in TEH GREATEST COUNTRY EVAR she would have been either out on her ass or locked up in some care center dungeon. All because right-wing ideologues think that every government dollar spent outside of their district is socialism.

  8. Iowa Liberal Lies & Manipulation Says:

    False Iowa Liberal claim: 1. Every poll shows that those on the left don’t think the Senate bill goes far enough, and that numbers only dipped after the public option was sacrificed to get a few Senators like Lieberman and Nelson on board to override your 40 vote minority representing 37% of the country.

    Every poll does NOT show what Iowa Liberal claims. It’s simply not true. And the latter part of that claim flies in the face of reality, the reality that a number of Democrats were bribed to secure their votes in guaranteeing passage of the Senate version of the healthcare bill. RE: The Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase are just two of those bribes.

    Demorat Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska indicated he wasn’t going to vote for the Senate healthcare bill pre-bribe. So in exchange for Nelson’s vote on the $871 billion health bill, Demorat leaders guaranteed the federal government would pay the full price of expanded Medicaid coverage in Nebraska, a.k.a. The Cornhusker kickback.

    Another wavering vote, Democrat Mary Landrieu of Louisiana was bribed. Her *enticement* included a package of approximately $300 million in extra Medicare subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

    Another $100 million bribe to fund construction of a university hospital was inserted at the request of Sen. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, with the University of Connecticut *qualifying* for it.

    The final bill also granted Medicare coverage to Montanans exposed to asbestos from a vermiculite mine — a pet project of Demorat Sen. Max Baucus. No other state has this kind of earmark.

    Demorat Sen. Bill Nelson pushed for a provision to let 800,000 Sunshine State seniors enrolled in private Medicare plans keep extra benefits (benefits cut from seniors in most other states).

    And Vermont’s Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Demorat, secured $600 million in Medicaid benefits for his state.

    *Funny* how these benefits get extended to Democrat states huh?

    Truth is, the Democrats held a 60 vote filibuster proof majority, they didn’t need a single GOP vote to get the Senate healthcare plan passed. When some democrats objected to the bill, they were bribed. That’s the reality of the situation, one Iowa Liberal denies with cowardice.

  9. REI Says:

    You’re about as dumb as they come. Why don’t you do us all a favor and go take some remedial political science courses. What you call “bribes” is how legislation gets passed. You think Bush passed Medicare Part D (socialism!) without any pork attached?

    You lost the election. Get over it already and stop whining about how you “want your country back” like a sissy loser.

  10. Henry Whistler Says:

    This is hilarious. He comes here and thinks he has a point attacking Ben Nelson, Max Baucus, and Mary Landrieu.

    Yeah, wiseguy, we don’t like those bunch much because they keep acting like Republicans. Oh, he has one other thing:

    “Every poll does NOT show what Iowa Liberal claims. It’s simply not true.”

    Were you going to back that up at all, troll?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084856.shtml

    The public is divided on whether the reforms go too far or not far enough in providing health coverage to as many Americans as possible, and about four in 10 think the reforms do not do enough to lower costs or regulate insurance companies.

    You act infallible. How is that honorable? People disprove what you say, easily and openly, but you don’t change your behavior. People try to debate with you, and you troll.

    Stand up and walk like a man.

  11. mike Says:

    .Every poll does NOT show what Iowa Liberal claims. It’s simply not true.

    Right, because plagiarist Mike Thayer says so.

    That’s the reality of the situation, one Iowa Liberal denies with cowardice.

    Like all of your trite and derivative cut and paste jobs on Coralville Courier, you don’t ever actually explain anything so you’re really not worth responding to. You think that calling somebody a liar or a coward or claiming that they “have no honor” is a substitute for a valid argument.