Calling Out Fake Catholics

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011 @ 1:29 pm | Politics

Hate to break this to some of you, but the Church’s mission to the poor is non-negotiable, and you don’t have to take it from a godless liberal. These are your bishops talking. Calling poor people lazy or preaching a bootstrappers’ doctrine is very nice if you’re trying to make friends over at Town Hall, but, you know, Matthew 6:24.

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8 Responses to “Calling Out Fake Catholics”

  1. ladk Says:

    So you support established religion interfering with governmental policy when it suits you as well. Wonderful.

  2. Thomas Tallis Says:

    Oh no, the hypocrisy police! Did you see ’em move that goalpost? They’re tricky!

  3. Henry Whistler Says:

    I think the point that the Republican party thrives on contempt for the poor eluded ladk. We’ve been hearing for thirty years that the poor will be helped indirectly by policies that favor the rich, but what we’ve gotten is at its core a mission that favors the rich and throws excuses at the poor. Someone could almost defend such a position, but not while simultaneously claiming to be not just Christian, but very-much-so.

  4. ladk Says:

    I think the point that the Republican party thrives on contempt for the poor eluded ladk.

    No, I got it. I just despise the willing use of a moral high ground presented by the church’s policies, when it suits you to do so, that have no place in our governmental process.

    The exact same reason you would complain, rightly so, if they had that many bishops sign a letter stating that Boehner needed to outlaw abortion or make gay marriage implicitly illegal in all fifty states.

    The bible can be used in many different ways depending on how you quote it and in what context you present it and it is despicable to use a text like that in that manner.

  5. AJKamper Says:

    Bishops? What bishops? Did you read the bottom of the letter? These are normal citizens trying to persuade Boehner that the moral structure they both share should be causing him to act the opposite with respect to the poor. It’s not “established religion” at all.

    It’s a lot different from a magisterial demand.

    But I do also have to emit a single anguished squeak at the way that the right wing has somehow transformed the communistic, anti-wealth Good News into a plutocratic bludgeon against the poor. Reading capitalism into the New Testament is simply deluded.

  6. cbmc Says:


    [i] In a letter speaking on behalf of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Bishop Stephen Blaire and Bishop Howard Hubbard detailed the anti-life implications of this budget in regard to its impact on poor and vulnerable American citizens. They explained the Church’s teachings in this regard clearly, insisting that:
    A just framework for future budgets cannot rely on disproportionate cuts in essential services to poor persons. It requires shared sacrifice by all, including raising adequate revenues, eliminating unnecessary military and other spending, and addressing the long-term costs of health insurance and retirement programs fairly.
    Specifically, addressing your budget, the letter expressed grave concern about changes to Medicaid and Medicare that could leave the elderly and poor without adequate health care. The bishops warned further:
    We also fear the human and social costs of substantial cuts to programs that serve families working to escape poverty, especially food and nutrition, child development and education, and affordable housing.
    Representing the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Bishops Hubbard and Blaire have now endorsed with other American Christian leaders a call to legislators for a “Circle of Protection” around programs for the poor that you, Mr. Speaker, have imperiled. The statement of these Christian leaders recognizes the need for fiscal responsibility, “but not at the expense of hungry and poor people.” Indeed, it continues, “These choices are economic, political—and moral. As Christians, we believe the moral measure of the debate is how the most poor and vulnerable people fare. We look at every budget proposal from the bottom up—how it treats those Jesus called ‘the least of these’ (Matthew 25:45).”[/i]

  7. AJKamper Says:

    Oh. That. Oops.

    I think my main concern is still not where it comes from, but whether it comes as a statement from authority, i.e. are you a bad Catholic if you do this, or if it’s just concern. And that goes for abortion or social services.

  8. cbmc Says:

    Bishops don’t speak ex cathedra if that’s what you mean – their opinions don’t carry the force of doctrine. But I mean – the Catholic church is a hierarchy. If the bishop explains a teaching to you, as an American you’re free to disagree but as a Catholic there’s an expectation that you take his word for it. “I don’t agree with the Bishop’s reading of scripture” is kind of a silly thing for a Catholic who considers himself actually-Catholic to say.