The Republicans are not a default party, they’re the Party of Default.

Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011 @ 10:30 pm | Politics

Two things that come to mind:

1. The Teapublicans are crazy.
2. The Teapublicans are, unsurprisingly, wrong.

It seems that Republicans believe that they can prevent Obama from doing a thing, even a payroll tax cut that benefits lesser earners, and then be thought of as an alternative batter if we think Obama hasn’t done the best job.

It’s firefighters vs arsonists. People thought they could register economic anger by electing the Teapublicans, and they got a war on women and a kamikaze attack on the US economy.

They have discredited themselves, and they didn’t have much credit to start with. It’s a no-brainer that the country would benefit far more under Obama than any of these unrepentant extremists and panderers.

I love how Republicans claim that despite all their efforts at obstruction, Obama and the Democrats got everything they wanted. I respond that non-crazy people who watched the news know that Democrats didn’t get even close to everything they wanted. Hello, public option, anybody? The ACA itself was a damned compromise as it was. Why should we listen to people telling us we got our Christmas list? It only works if you exclude the voices of the left entirely.

And yet they inevitably shift the goalposts and argue sure, but Democrats PRETTY MUCH got what they wanted and IT WAS SO MUCH. Once again, the stimulus was one-third tax cuts, and had a 4x multiplier I cited earlier.

You don’t hand they keys back to the drunk after you stick them in the back seat and they proceed to choke you while you’re driving everybody home.

-hw

8 Responses to “The Republicans are not a default party, they’re the Party of Default.”

  1. jacksmith Says:

    REALITY!!

    ( http://my.firedoglake.com/iflizwerequeen/2011/05/16/how-about-a-little-truth-about-what-the-majority-want-for-health-care/ )

    ( Gov. Peter Shumlin: Real Healthcare reform — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yFUbkVCsZ4 )

    ( Health Care Budget Deficit Calculator — http://www.cepr.net/calculators/hc/hc-calculator.html )

    ( Briefing: Dean Baker on Boosting the Economy by Saving Healthcare http://t.co/fmVz8nM )

    START NOW!

    As you all know. Had congress passed a single-payer or government-run robust Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one, our economy and jobs would have taken off like a rocket. And still will. Single-payer would be best. But a government-run robust Public Option CHOICE! that can lead to a single-payer system is the least you can accept. It’s not about competing with for-profit healthcare and for-profit health insurance. It’s about replacing it with Universal Healthcare Assurance. Everyone knows this now.

    The message from the midterm elections was clear. The American people want real healthcare reform. They want that individual mandate requiring them to buy private health insurance abolished. And they want a government-run robust public option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one. And they want it now.

    They want Drug re-importation, and abolishment, or strong restrictions on patents for biologic and prescription drugs. And government controlled and negotiated drug and medical cost. They want back control of their healthcare system from the Medical Industrial Complex. And they want it NOW!

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT, AND MUST NOT, ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE TO STAND WITHOUT A STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.

    For-profit health insurance is extremely unethical, and morally repugnant. It’s as morally repugnant as slavery was. And few if any decent Americans are going to allow them-self to be compelled to support such an unethical and immoral crime against humanity.

    This is a matter of National and Global security. There can be NO MORE EXCUSES.

    Further, we want that corrupt, undemocratic filibuster abolished. Whats the point of an election if one corrupt member of congress can block the will of the people, and any legislation the majority wants. And do it in secret. Give me a break people.

    Also, unemployment healthcare benefits are critically needed. But they should be provided through the Medicare program at cost, less the 65% government premium subsidy provided now to private for profit health insurance.

    Congress should stop wasting hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money on private for profit health insurance subsidies. Subsidies that cost the taxpayer 10x as much or more than Medicare does. Private for profit health insurance plans cost more. But provide dangerous and poorer quality patient care.

    Republicans: GET RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

    Democrats: ADD A ROBUST GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION TO HEALTHCARE REFORM.

    This is what the American people are shouting at you. Both parties have just enough power now to do what the American people want. GET! IT! DONE! NOW!

    If congress does not abolish the individual mandate. And establish a government-run public option CHOICE! before the end of 2011. EVERY! member of congress up for reelection in 2012 will face strong progressive pro public option, and anti-individual mandate replacement candidates.

    Strong progressive pro “PUBLIC OPTION” CHOICE! and anti-individual mandate volunteer candidates should begin now. And start the process of replacing any and all members of congress that obstruct, or fail to add a government-run robust PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! before the end of 2011.

    We need two or three very strong progressive volunteer candidates for every member of congress that will be up for reelection in 2012. You should be fully prepared to politically EVISCERATE EVERY INCUMBENT that fails or obstructs “THE PUBLIC OPTION”. And you should be willing to step aside and support the strongest pro “PUBLIC OPTION” candidate if the need arises.

    ASSUME CONGRESS WILL FAIL and SELLOUT again. So start preparing now to CUT THEIR POLITICAL THROATS. You can always step aside if they succeed. But only if they succeed. We didn’t have much time to prepare before these past midterm elections. So the American people had to use a political shotgun approach. But by 2012 you will have a scalpel.

    Congress could have passed a robust government-run public option during it’s lame duck session. They knew what the American people wanted. They already had several bills on record. And the house had already passed a public option. Departing members could have left with a truly great accomplishment. And the rest of you could have solidified your job before the 2012 elections.

    President Obama, you promised the American people a strong public option available to everyone. And the American people overwhelmingly supported you for it. Maybe it just wasn’t possible before. But it is now.

    Knock heads. Threaten people. Or do whatever you have to. We will support you. But get us that robust public option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one before the end of 2011. Or We The People Of The United States will make the past midterm election look like a cake walk in 2012. And it will include you.

    We still have a healthcare crisis in America. With hundreds of thousands dieing needlessly every year in America. And a for profit medical industrial complex that threatens the security and health of the entire world. They have already attacked the world with H1N1 killing thousands, and injuring millions. And more attacks are planned for profit, and to feed their greed.

    Spread the word people.

    Progressives, prepare the American peoples scalpels. It’s time to remove some politically diseased tissues.

    God Bless You my fellow human beings. I’m proud to be one of you. You did good.

    See you on the battle field.

    Sincerely

    jacksmith – WorkingClass 🙂

  2. Anon Says:

    My God you guys are delusional.

    You know the old saying: “You are your toughest critic.” In the case of President, this seems to be true as his past words as a candidate running for president are coming back to haunt his reelection campaign.

    July 3, 2008: Candidate Obama criticizes President George W. Bush for adding $4 trillion to the nation’s debt over the course of his eight years in office:

    The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.“

    Flash-forward to today where the Treasury Department reports that President Obama has also added $4 trillion to the debt… in just 2 1/2 years:

    The latest posting by the Treasury Department shows the national debt has now increased $4 trillion on President Obama’s watch.

    The debt was $10.626 trillion on the day Mr. Obama took office. The latest calculation from Treasury shows the debt has now hit $14.639 trillion.

    It’s the most rapid increase in the debt under any U.S. president.

    http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2011/08/24/candidate-obama-slams-president-obamas-unpatriotic-policies/

  3. Henry Whistler Says:

    “President Obama has also added $4 trillion to the debt… in just 2 1/2 years:

    The latest posting by the Treasury Department shows the national debt has now increased $4 trillion on President Obama’s watch.”

    Not the same thing. Whose actual policies resulted in that debt?

    Bush’s.

    Now let’s watch you ignore that.

  4. Anon Says:

    “Damn, the light bulb burned out.”

    HW’s response: “It’s Bush’s fault.”

    “I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” – Obama to Joe The Plumber, St. Petersburg Times, 10/19/08

    “We’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.” – Obama 4/28/10

    Enough is enough. Obama has intentionally tried to wreck the U.S. economy during his 2-1/2 year tenure. His socialist experiment, from ObamaCare, to card check, to the moratorium on oil drilling, to cap-and-trade, to thousands of new regulations; It’s his policies not Bush’s that has created a frightening climate of uncertainty in the business community.

    Obama’s actions have never been about a reaction to Bush policy. Obama has been about being proactive with a Marxist mindset since he took office.

    As a candidate Obama said he would ‘Transform America’

    Indeed.

    Ignore that, fool.

  5. Anon Says:

    Any by the way, the chart you linked to left out a lot of Obama era spending. He too has spent money on wars, there’s Tarp II, the Stimulus bill, the total cost of Obamacare was left out, they only used the ‘reforms’ portion of the bill, a controversy in itself.

    That’s a rather cheesy thing to do don’t you think?

    The fact remains, according to the Treasury Department figures, what Bush irresponsibly spent in eight years, Obama has irresponsibly spent in just 2-1/2.

    In the real world, that’s not “somebody else’s fault”, it’s called compounding what was already a serious problem.

    Ignore that, brickhead.

  6. Henry Whistler Says:

    “Enough is enough. Obama has intentionally tried to wreck the U.S. economy during his 2-1/2 year tenure.”

    So stupidly wrong and precisely opposite. Naturally, since the Republicans just got done attempting to wreck the economy by forcing default, you know that as a good little propagandist it’s now your job to run around saying Obama did that.

    It’s kind of glaring evidence that you’re a dishonest person. Since I suspect you’re the chickenshit troll Thayer, this doesn’t come as much of a surprise. If you don’t know Thayer, he’s this idiot who we’ve proven to be a plagiarizer and who edits the comments of people who argue with him on his site so they can’t make him look stupid (though there’s no possible way he could not look stupid). He comes here, spouts his shit, then scatters without every really participating in an actual argument.

    Kind of like how you didn’t finish the other thread, yet you likely repent nothing.

    “Any by the way, the chart you linked to left out a lot of Obama era spending. He too has spent money on wars, there’s Tarp II, the Stimulus bill, the total cost of Obamacare was left out, they only used the ‘reforms’ portion of the bill, a controversy in itself.”

    It didn’t leave out the stimulus, it’s right there labeled, “Stimulus.” You probably shouldn’t make cracks about other people’s smarts when you say things so stupid.

    What’s the dollar value of what you think it left out or attributed to Bush instead of Obama? How much does it do to change those numbers, that Bush’s policies led to $5 trillion while Obama’s add $1.4? Sorry, you might be able to create a “controversy” by clapping your hands along with your rightwing moron buddies, but that’s not the same thing as making a solid claim. You’re talking about reality here, and right now you’ve got nothing, so you just reassert your conclusion:

    “The fact remains, according to the Treasury Department figures, what Bush irresponsibly spent in eight years, Obama has irresponsibly spent in just 2-1/2.”

    …illustrating just how thick your skull is. Bush policies didn’t end when Obama took office. The Bush Tax Cuts exceed all of Obama’s contributions, and they continue today because Republicans demanded them to keep unemployment benefits going. Yes, there are some Bush policies that should be reversed or ended, but who are you to complain about Bush policies? And the stimulus, which has kept our economy from sinking much lower than it could have, should be placed under the Bush column anyway, it was a smart sane reaction to pour some water on the fire Bush left behind.

    Oh, but you’re a dishonest hack. So you’ll use whatever cheap metric works for you, and exonerate Bush from anything that actually resulted from his horrible eight years as the worst president of the modern era.

  7. Anon Says:

    Then I guess you’re just ignorant then. The chart mentioned stimulus yes, but it didnt give the full amount and it also mentioned “stimulus cuts” a manipulation. That’s the point, the Obama site of the chart is sheer manipulation. And you’re a fool to believe in it, and it you don’t believe it but are defending it anyway, then that makes you a liar.

    The Treasury data demonstrates the fallacy that is that chart.

    Bush policy expenditures added $4 Trillion to the debt.
    Obama policy expenditures have added $4 Trillion to the debt.

    Instead of giving an honest look to the data, you choose to be a dumbass.

    I wish your child good luck. The child will need it, as you seem incapable of teaching anything of true value.

    Good day. Again, your site is crap. If readers want actual content of value, they should go to http://www.theblaze.com

  8. Henry Whistler Says:

    “The chart mentioned stimulus yes, but it didnt give the full amount and it also mentioned “stimulus cuts” a manipulation. That’s the point, the Obama site of the chart is sheer manipulation.”

    It’s clear that the problem is with you, not the chart. You don’t sound like you know what the hell you’re talking about. It doesn’t mention the “full amount”??? What is the “full amount,” because it lists $711 billion in “stimulus spending” and $425 billion in stimulus tax cuts, so it’s including the full stimulus package along with other stimulus spending measures.

    But you’re somebody who says I’ll go find the truth at Glenn Beck’s website.

    The Treasury data demonstrates the fallacy that is that chart.

    Bush policy expenditures added $4 Trillion to the debt.
    Obama policy expenditures have added $4 Trillion to the debt.

    It’s sad that the country has so many assholes like you who don’t know anything but you’re too stupid to know that you don’t know anything. I’ve tried explaining some things to you, and you’re repeating yourself like a trained lapdog. The thing is, maybe you’re not that Thayer guy, but I can’t tell anymore because you zombies all sound the same.

    I just explained to you the difference between Bush policies and Obama policies, and you just wave away the information and repeat yourself that Obama’s policies have added $4 trillion. No, they haven’t. Both charts I’ve provided estimate him at adding $1.4 trillion, not $4 trillion, and your babbling isn’t going to make that go away. But you get your information from Glenn Beck websites, so what the fuck do you know?

    Nothing, and that loon’s ranting is enough to convince you otherwise, with just underscores how little you seem to understand anything passing in front of your face.

    Naturally, since we’ve established that you’re a lying propagandist, you have to accuse me of your precise crimes, dishonesty and being a dumbass.

    Mentioning my kid just makes you a scumbag, so thanks for clearing that up.

    Why are you guys always such sleazy, dishonest, bullshitting scumbags? Seriously, can I find an honest conservative to debate anymore? No, because the modern teabagging GOP has become so corrupt that their positions are indefensible.